Welcome to the Subtlety Rogue PVP guide for World of Warcraft Wrath of the Lich King 3.3.5a. In this guide, you will learn about playing a Subtlety Rogue in the arena or a battleground. The guide includes Talents, Glyphs, Gems, Enchantments, Add-ons, Gameplay & Skill rotation tips, Team setups.
Talents
This is a core build. Talents which are taken are a must-have. Green squares show viable talents, choose them depending on your play style. You will have to choose some of them to progress further in the talent tree.
Glyphs
Major Glyphs
Minor Glyphs
Gems
Gems are situational and depend on the build and equipment. They are used to reach the required stat caps.
- Meta: Relentless Earthsiege Diamond
- Red: Bright Cardinal Ruby or Fractured Cardinal Ruby
- Yellow: Yellow sockets are filled with Red Gems.
- Blue: Nightmare Tear x1
Other sockets are filled with Red Gems.
If you're using PvP gear - choose Armor Penetration, if PvE - choose Attack Power.
Enchants
- Head – Arcanum of Triumph or Arcanum of Torment
- Shoulder – Inscription of Triumph or Greater Inscription of the Axe
- Cloak – Enchant Cloak - Major Agility or Enchant Cloak - Shadow Armor
- Chest – Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats or Enchant Chest - Exceptional Resilience
- Bracers – Enchant Bracers - Greater Assault
- Gloves – Enchant Gloves - Crusher
- Waist – Eternal Belt Buckle
- Legs – Icescale Leg Armor
- Boots – Enchant Boots - Greater Assault or Enchant Boots - Tuskarr's Vitality
Weapons
- Main-hand – Scroll of Enchant Weapon - Berserking
- Off-hand – Titanium Weapon Chain
Gameplay & Rotations
For Main-hand – choose a dagger with 1.8 speed. Apply Wound Poison VII on the main weapon.
BiS main-hand daggers
- Heaven's Fall, Kryss of a Thousand Lies
- Wrathful Gladiator's Spike
- Rib Spreader
- Heartpierce
- Stormfury, Black Blade of the Betrayer
For Off-hand – choose a dagger with 1.4 speed. Axes and fists with 1.5 are suitable for Orcs. Apply Crippling Poison on the off-hand weapon. Apply Mind-numbing Poison on the second off-hand weapon, if you have one (you should).
BiS off-hand weapons
- Lungbreaker
- Scourgeborne Waraxe
- Wrathful Gladiator's Dirk
- Wrathful Gladiator's Left Razor
- Wrathful Gladiator's Dicer
Team Setups
Here is a list of preferable partners in the 2v2 and 3v3 arena.
2v2 Arena
- Frost Mage
- Shadow Priest
- Balance Druid
- Retribution Paladin
3v3 Arena
- Frost Mage + Discipline Priest
- Shadow Priest + Restoration Shaman
- Affliction Warlock + Restoration Druid
- Feral Druid + Discipline Priest
What abovt professions using this build ?
how much is the ideal hit rate for sub rouge for PvP?
5% - to hit with your abilities.
You will still miss normal attacks because of dual-wielding, but it's ok
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What about the total resiliance rating? Is there a meaningfull value?
Hi!
There's no correct answer to this question, but here's how you can decide and experiment. Remember that more resilience = less damage output (assuming you have access to equally good level pve gear)
Take 1000 as a starting point. From there, check if you're always the one to be focused. If yes, go for more.
If someone from your team is being killed first all the time (maybe he's a high priority target), you can afford more gear with damage, hence less resilience.
Assuming we're talking about a Subtlety spec, I would assume your team is taking the hit first.
For battlegrounds it's really up to how you play and how much messy situations you get in to.
Thanks! Thats very helpfull. I´ll try to experiment a little bit and find a good compromise 🙂